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Concrete Home: To Insulate or Outsulate?

Yesterday, we got a letter from Martha: "We are in Texas. We have an all concrete home made of blocks and concrete roof. How can we insulate it? The home is about 2000 sq ft. And we cannot get it warm or cool enough with a new 5-ton central AC unit. Please help.

As a natural builder, my first response is wrap it in straw bales .  The technique is described in Carol Venolia and Kelly Lerner's book, Natural Remodeling.

Resident scientist Steve Greenburg says, "My sense is that all that mass should be inside the insulation, so maybe rigid insulation on the outside of the concrete with e.g. stucco finish on the exterior walls and maybe a sprayed-on foam roof (with high albedo), if the roof is flat.  Does it really have a concrete roof? (Oh, maybe concrete tiles?). Another issue is properly sealing and insulating the ducts. If the roof can't be externally insulated and the ducts are in the attic, spray foam on the underside of the roof might be the way to go. If the ducts are in a basement or crawl space, then sealing the ceiling, insulating the attic floor, and ventilating the attic might be better. Pay attention to the windows—exterior shading or at least Energy Star windows for summer, let the sunshine in in the winter—is also important. HE has done articles on all of these. Find a house doctor and have them do some diagnostics, look at the specifics of the home and site, and make recommendations on that basis.

Danny Parker of Florida Energy Center adds: "You are right Steve. Simulation suggests that insulating on the outside looks to be the most favorable option. This can be done with EFIS as we did in two experiments now, nearly 20 years ago. Stucco goes on the exterior of the insulation. Even R-5 on the exterior changes performance dramatically.

My guess is that this house has other problems. Ducts? Yes. Many homes in Texas have air handlers and ducts in the attic so likely it's leaky, with lots of conduction losses as well. A four-ton HP should cool and heat that size of house otherwise. 

But if it has a concrete roof and the ducts are inside, then the HP itself has trouble--such as with a five-ton air conditioner outdoor unit matched with an old and poorly functioning indoor unit. (This is a terrible problem in Florida because AC contractors love to change the outdoor unit and not change the indoor one).

As for the concrete roof, it can be insulated on the exterior as well and covered with a white protective membrane, metal roof or other such assembly. R-30 is typically recommended.

What would you do?

 
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03-11-2010
2:18:24 AM

How about some nice, tall trees for shadow to start with? I have a house and in the summer, these trees help. Interesting situation Armand RROD

Armand
04-04-2010
11:55:29 AM
You can always fur out the walls on the interior and add insulation there, at least a R-19 min.  This would be the cheapest method for a basement structure.  You could hire a home energy auditor to come and review your house to find the best method for the specific condition that you may have, to realize the best energy strategy.
Curtis
05-13-2010
7:47:13 AM
Years ago I had the same problem in a house. We had a guy come out and fill the concrete blocks with foam.
I'm not sure what it was called but had a high insulation value. He drilled holes in the top layer of blocks and pumped in under pressure a foam that expanded. He drilled other holes at the bottom and filled until foam started coming out of the bottom layer of holes.

Then we put chicken wire on the outside walls and stuccoed it a tan shade to match the color of the West Texas sand.

Worked like a charm and was fairly cheap. But that was then, now it would most likely cost much more.

Papa Ray
Papa Ray


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